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    Posted: 07 Jun 2006 at 9:17pm
The article appeared this morning, along with radio play every fifteen minutes. I walked into the shop and found 24 voicemails, and a ton of emails.
 
The "other" dealer in town Still believes that the notes were stolen from the BEP in spite of the Secret Service, State Police, and BEP statements. They are also noted in the article.
 
Here is the article:
 
 
It is a little different than the print version, so I will scan the paper article and post it a bit later.
 
 
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WBOC TV16 and UPN21 has filmed the interview with the error notes. Should air tonight.
 
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Great article. Not sure whats up with the other dealer. If the government says they are not stolen then why is the other dealer still not accepting them?
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When the notes were first discovered, the way in which they were cut, looks as if it were done with scissors. This (if true) could only happen if someone had stolen the sheets from the BEP. The BEP does not sell uncut sheets of $100 bills.
 
However, unlike the other dealer, I have contacted all the agencies who SHOULD know if something had been stolen.
 
I am perfectly comfortable with the assurance of the Secret Service, BEP, State Police, Treasury Dept, and State Bureau of Investigation.
 
If all these agencies state with certainty that NO notes were stolen, I have to agree.
 
As to why they look like they were cut with scissors, I cannot explain that part. In my opinion "they look as if they were handcut". However, I am not going to let that fact stand in the way of buying and selling these notes.
 
If any customer needs further information about the notes, I have the contact names and phone numbers of all the agencies involved.
 
This dealer has put himself on a ledge with his matter of fact statements, and has absolutely NO supporting evidence to back up that claim.
 
I like the other dealer, but I think that his mouth got ahead of him.
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If the only way to have them cut this way is outside of the BEP then it is pretty scary that stolen or not that someone got them out undetected to manually cut them.
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Originally posted by BECOKA BECOKA wrote:

If the only way to have them cut this way is outside of the BEP then it is pretty scary that stolen or not that someone got them out undetected to manually cut them.
 
this is so true! 
 
ND-if they "appear hand-cut" as you state, then how did they end up that way except for the entire sheet being cut outside the BEP?  I just don't understand.Confused
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I can only assume that they were in fact stolen from the BEP as it would explain the cutting. However, as my opinion means very little in the workings of the government, they can decide one way or the other.
 
As of today, no one has come out and said that they were in fact stolen material.
 
I have asked every agency involved, and not 1 of them has confirmed or denied it.
 
I have specifically asked the Secret Service repeatedly to make a decision. I would love the notes to be available for public sale, but I will not sell them until I get full clearance to do so, with supporting documentation.
 
However, the story still continues.
 
Today, I was interviewed by the News Journal, Delawares largest paper (at least I think it is).
 
They will run the story tomorrow in print and online. http://www.delawareonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/frontpage
 
I also gave the plug to the forum Wink
 
 
No matter what the government decides, this was by far the "best" purchase I have made since I have been a dealer.
 
 
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That's great!  You couldn't buy publicity that good.
 
BTW, last I read you were offering $400 for them, where did the paper get the "they may be worth up to $3000" quote?  Did they just make it up?
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IF, and that is a big IF, the notes are considered legal to buy and sell, the notes would be offered at $1000 plus each. That is about normal for such an error. Most retail in the 11 or 12 hundred range. So 3 notes equals 3000 dollars.
It just didn't quite come across as the way it was supposed to.
 
The phone and emails are running me ragged this morning. Absolutely the BEST money I have ever spent.
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Originally posted by nationaldealer nationaldealer wrote:

IF, and that is a big IF, the notes are considered legal to buy and sell, the notes would be offered at $1000 plus each. That is about normal for such an error. Most retail in the 11 or 12 hundred range. So 3 notes equals 3000 dollars.
It just didn't quite come across as the way it was supposed to.
 
The phone and emails are running me ragged this morning. Absolutely the BEST money I have ever spent.
 
 
lol, imagine that, a reporter missing an important detail and misquoting someoneUnhappy  I guess that is about par for the course, though.
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Sort of like when they spout off about the 1943 cents. While they get half the facts straight, they miss the point.
 
Overall I am very thrilled with the results. We have been absolutely swamped with NEW customers all day long. I have spent quite a bit of money today, and bought some interesting coins.
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Originally posted by nationaldealer nationaldealer wrote:

Sort of like when they spout off about the 1943 cents. While they get half the facts straight, they miss the point.
 
Overall I am very thrilled with the results. We have been absolutely swamped with NEW customers all day long. I have spent quite a bit of money today, and bought some interesting coins.
 
 
Caller: "Hello, mister coin dealer I have a brown 1943 penny that the paper says is worth millions, where do i go to cash it in?"
 
Coin Dealer: (Rollong his eyes) "Does it stick to a magnet?"
 
Caller: "Yes.  Does that make it more valuable?"
 
Dealer: "Well, no it means that it is a fake.  A copper plated coin."
 
Caller: (long pause, then) "You're a liar and a thief trying to get me to sell it for less than it is worth!" (as he slams the phone down)
 
Dealer: (thinking to self)  "Why am I doing this again?!"
 
Lol, I don't envy you guys having to field phone calls like this one all the time. 
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I would imagine it is hard to please everyone as a dealer, I would just make sure that the people that hang up are not the type to spread awful rumors. Wink
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